>> well, if you bring in dennis rad money. dennis rodman. rodman, you could be right, a young, naive black man mostly known for smoking pot and leaving foreign policy, what could go wrong? >> and winning a know -- nobel peace prize. >> as much as we make fun of dennis rodman, his policy of having the north koreans talk with obama is not that far off from what hillary clinton has vowed and what barack obama himself wanted us to do. he wants to pick up the phone and talk to these guys. he just thinks i haven't made peace yet because we haven't met each other. just think, rodman is articulating the obama policy. >> rick, i wanted to ask you, venezuela's acting president since hugo chavez died. he credited chavez for the election of a south american pope. he said, quote, our commander ascended to the heights and is face-to-face with christ. something influenced the choice of a south american pope. something arrived at christ's side and said it is time for south america to come. >> if he is at chide's side how are they face-to-face? >> you just s